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Photography
Re-post-processing
#CREATIVE EDIT
Morton
12 years ago
Hi folks,
 
after developping/post-processing a RAW file into a final TIFF with all stamp corrections, how do you re-work on it if you like to make some changes or small improvements? Do you "overwrite" the final TIFF or do you create a new one?
 
My thoughts: if i like to make some small changes to a final TIFF, it is perhaps somewhat a small lack of quality later. This is the reason why i keep the intermediate developped TIFF BEFORE using the stamp tool. The problem only is: i cannot save the work that i made with the stamp tool, only developping steps before. So if i like to make some changes in contrast or exposure, i need to make all stamp corrections one more time and this is quite boring.
 
I know that Lightroom is able to save all manipulations, even stamp tool corrections. In this case it will be easy to improve the picture. But what's about Photoshop? Can other programs do it too?
 
Best
 
Mycle
 
P.S. I saw a few minutes ago, that the new release of ACDSee Pro is now able to use a new stamp tool in a non-destructive way ...
 
Phyllis Clarke CREW 
12 years ago — Moderator
Hi Mycle,
There may be other things that you want to do to a duplicate file other than cloning etc.
 
Can you tell us what the problem was that you had saving the file. You should be able to save it. Just make sure the name is not the same otherwise it will want to overwrite your first file.
 
I would imagine you can save a photo as many times as you like in any editing program as long as it does not have the same name. In Photoshop if you work in a psd format you can save all the layers and adjustment layers too of course...hundreds of them - if needed.
 
In TIFF which I rarely work in - I do not know it will save...but for sure you can make a second file.
 
Good luck with editing..and good fun too.
Phylllis
Morton
12 years ago
Hi Phyllis
 
The problem so far was the fact, that ACDSee Pro doesn't provide a cloning tool to execute dust for example in a non-destructive way. I can only operate the cloning tool in a destructive way. So done and once made, it is not more possible to load the picture in develop mode to make some changes.
 
But as i saw this morning, ACDSee Pro 7 will implement the cloning stamp tool in the non-destructive develop mode.
 
As you said, in Photoshop you can save all manipulations, even cloning, by using different layers and save as .PSD. This was not possible with ACDSee Pro so far.
 
Deleted User
12 years ago
You could always record an action for your dust removal in PS and then run that later. Or just do all that work before you do other stuff so it's already done.
Morton
12 years ago
Or just do all that work before you do other stuff so it's already done.
 
Yes, this would be a practicable alternative.
 
Greg Forcey
12 years ago
If I were to re-edit a TIFF I would just place additional edits at the top or in the middle of the layer stack, wherever they were appropriate.
 
In the case of cloning or healing, I place all of those adjustments in a separate blank layer. You can clone or heal to a blank layer by turning on "Sample all layers" in the toolbar options.
Deleted User
12 years ago
 
In the case of cloning or healing, I place all of those adjustments in a separate blank layer. You can clone or heal to a blank layer by turning on "Sample all layers" in the toolbar options.
 
SO if you update one of the lower layers do the clone strokes update too? Never tried that approach...
Greg Forcey
12 years ago
 
In the case of cloning or healing, I place all of those adjustments in a separate blank layer. You can clone or heal to a blank layer by turning on "Sample all layers" in the toolbar options.
 
SO if you update one of the lower layers do the clone strokes update too? Never tried that approach...
 
If you place an additional pixel-based layer below the cloning layer then no the cloning layer will not update automatically.
 
But if you place any additional adjustment layers (or pixel layers) above the cloning layer, then those adjustments will apply to the cloning layer and any others below it.
 
I just like having the cloning layer (I call it "cleanup") in the layers palette as separate layer for organizational purposes and in case I want to reduce the opacity of the clone strokes at a global level.